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 Post subject: Ninjitsu
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 6:22 am 
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I’m thinking of creating a Stalker.

Has anyone played with the Ninjitsu set?
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Ninjitsu

It looks like it could work well.

I would try Claws or Spines....Claws is my first choice at the moment.

Any advice? [smilie=thinking.gif]

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 Post subject: Re: Ninjitsu
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:29 am 
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I have a little ninjitsu stalker only lvl6 or so but so far its fun the nice thing about it is that by lvl 4 you can have def to Melee, ranged and AOE and while your def wont be as high as Super reflexes you do get a nice self heal and some tricks.

Also try pestering Blast or X for build tips im sure they both have high lvl Nin toons

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 Post subject: Re: Ninjitsu
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 1:01 pm 
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Mess wrote:
Also try pestering Blast or X for build tips im sure they both have high lvl Nin toons

Guilty :oops:

Hi Betty. Blast has lvl 50 ninjitsu - not sure which primary though. It's not Energy Melee though. I got to admit I love stalkers - primarly cos they're easy to level if you're stuck solo and always entertaining too - but they can be a nightmare in small teams but add great high level damage in big teams. I have a claws/regen (ShadowBaby at lvl 42), a Energy Melee/Energy Aura (Cloak, also 42) and newer Energy Melee/Ninjitsu (IonFist) - which I decided would be my Ultimate stalker.

But you're right: Nijitsu is great fun. The self-heal you get (Kuji-In Sha) from level 20 is fantastic and cheap to run (in contrast to Dark Regeneration from Dark). The two defence toggles are also fairly end-light too and you get a whole bag of useful tricks too (caltrops, smoke flash, perception, two placates and a confuse) make you a virtual magician and really tricky dude (or dudette). The combination of tricks and low end usage means you can go toe-to-toe with high-level bosses too - which you can't always do with other secondaries. Highly recommended.

Personally, I decided that Energy Melee had to be the ultimate primary for a stalker though (except for the naff stalker strike) as you also gain a boss-level stun and you can three hit kill a three-man mob once you pick up Total Focus (at lvl 32) and have added some damage SOs). You just fire Build Up and fire off your AS, Energy Transfer then Total Focus and you have 3 dead critters at your feat. If you take any damage at all you just heal yourself and move on. Great. I very rarely, solo at least, use any of the the other powers.

Have fun. :D

EDIT: Sorry I very much like my claws/regen too but shear blitx damage and self-heal ability EM/Nijitsu much better. Claws looks great though and has the coolest AS - which does count! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Ninjitsu
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:38 pm 
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My stalker is Ninja Blade/Ninjitsu and he's great both on PvP & PvE.

Thinking that you're only interested in PvE play Betty, I can easily say that Ninjitsu is better than Super Reflexes. I accept, as Mess also mentions, that SR provides higher defence values, but it's not a significant difference. Ninjitsu survives longer with uninterrupted self-heal and special gadgets included on the set.

When it comes to the play SR is dull, you only have defence autos or toggles. Ninjitsu offers many powers which may affect your game style, so you can come up with different builds.

I agree with the following remark, I guess Ebon made it at the time: SR is just a quick copy& paste of a scrapper secondary for stalkers. However, Ninjitsu is a set designed specifically for stalkers.

I wouldn't try another secondary if I created a second stalker, I would have only changed the primary. And as for primary, here's my preference:

1)A weapon set (Ninja Blade or Dual Blades) both for concept and visual purpose (Unlockable blades, they're just great).

2)Martial Arts, Energy Melee or Electrical Melee for higher single damage.

3)Dark Melee for synergy. Slow damage but the -tohit debuff aspect of Dark Melee would virtually render you untouchable.

I personally find Claws very weak in damage and Spines not designed for stalkers.

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 Post subject: Re: Ninjitsu
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:51 am 
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Blastor wrote:
here's my preference:

1)A weapon set (Ninja Blade or Dual Blades) both for concept and visual purpose (Unlockable blades, they're just great).

2)Martial Arts, Energy Melee or Electrical Melee for higher single damage.

3)Dark Melee for synergy. Slow damage but the -tohit debuff aspect of Dark Melee would virtually render you untouchable.

I personally find Claws very weak in damage and Spines not designed for stalkers.


Thanks for all the advice :D I've rolled up a Claws/Ninitsu.

I went for Claws because:
a) I've not played the claws set above level 16
b) Blades sets combined with Ninjitsu seems so "common/obvious" :-s
c) I've played Dark Melee to 50 (nice set, but i want something new)
d) If claws is weak in damage then good....it will take me longer to get to 50 and any delay is appreciated!! :mrgreen: I like to make progress, but i want to go slow :D
e) Claws fit with the creature concept

So... Reeou is born. Funny name i know but it seemed fitting for a creature type character. I haven't played her yet (AP dragged me off to Rob a ba....ahem.....bet on the horses), but i look forward to it!

Thanks all =D>

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 Post subject: Re: Ninjitsu
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 9:15 am 
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I'm sure it will be great Betty. The Claws AS animation is particularly satisfying. :D

Bon chance!

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Claws is indeed a fun set i have it on cyber and its great fun it even makes up for the crappy ness of elec armour to some degree.

If your starting out a new low level villian maybe we can team up some time as i've not long started a couple of difrent dominators and well i allways have a brute stashed soem where :D

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 Post subject: Re: Ninjitsu
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Mess wrote:
If your starting out a new low level villian maybe we can team up some time

I'll try and join ya too Mess/Betty. Dispite my best efforts to complete toons I feel another toon coming on ...

Not sure what though. I tempted to do another MM but should do something different. I was thinking of doing a new toon call the Speaker and shouting ORDER, ORDER every couple of minutes - but that probably wouldn't have been very funny anyway!

Would like to do something "completely different" :?

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 Post subject: Re: Ninjitsu
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have you tried dominators yet?

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 Post subject: Re: Ninjitsu
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Mess wrote:
have you tried dominators yet?

Not much Mess. I had a mind/something on the go but ... he didn't go far! :D

Logging on a second with some name ideas I had ...

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 Post subject: Re: Ninjitsu
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Level 3 ....... Weeeeeee! :mrgreen:

One death (Christened at 5 pips in) and lots of fun :lol:

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